What is so bad about government run health care?

Many incorrect rebuttals to hillarys plan for universal health care and covering every single, is met by "its socialized medicine" or its "government run". When its not, but lets assume it is. Whats wrong with providing American citizens with healthcare?

Please help me see an angle im not seeing. I think revoking the tax cut on upper upper class people will cover it along with other iniatives proposed by her. I am a high net worth individual and myself and others i know dont mind paying a little more taxes to help out others.

Loctus- The way I am seeing it, is at least you will get serviced. One guy said hes waiting for a MRI for two months, but at least he is going to get an MRI as opposed to not getting an MRI at all.

I like the answers that don't want "socialized" healthcare. Is the fire department socialized? Socialized highways? Socialized police force?

We are at the point now that many people will be better off poor(in order to get healthcare) than working. Instead of paying for them for emergency room services, we could provide cheaper preventive care.

The VA hospitals have been privatized-we saw what that did for Walter Reed.

Hillary and Bill were right about fixing healthcare in 1994. I had no idea costs would escalate so much, so quickly.

living in Canada, waiting on a MRI for 2 months now.

Actually Government run health care works pretty good if funded properly, look at Medicare, seniors and the disabled can still see their choice of Doctors and it's extremely efficient with just a 1% overhead, right wing nut jobs don't understand there is no such thing as a purely capitalists society that has function well and lasted, every democracy throughout history has had a social safety net all functioning systems atre a blend of Captitalism and Social welfare

Nothing is bad. We should have it.

government run. that is the part that tells me it is a train wreck in the making.

With a war that is what it is and a welfare system riddled with fraud and abuse, bridges falling, a city still not rebuilt, just what has the government shown you that makes you believe they are qualified to run health care?

I come from a country (Australia) that has 75% government run health care and I never had a problem with it. In fact, now that I'm living in the US., I won't even go to the doctor. I've been appalled at the way I've been treated. I have the best health coverage around, but doctors still try to give me medication I don't need. They still try to tell me I have things I don't and wait for it, yes, I had to wait 3 MONTHS to see a specialist on 4 different occasions. I know which system I prefer.

edit: littletwin, I don't know where this is coming from. I've never had to wait to have a procedure done at home, but every time I've ever had to see a doctor in the US, it's taken months, unless I go to the emergency room, in which case it takes several hours. I know it's not France or Canada I'm speaking of, but it's still a similar system.

corruption, besides that like the 28 Countrys that do have it like Canada which I live at would not want it any other way.

I seriously doubt that guy is waiting 2 months for an MRI, what city you live in?


EDIT: I agree that your system is full of corruption as well, even just leaving your system intact and just get the government to do what the insurance companies are doing now with little to no profits would be a huge difference in premiums. That alone can fix most of your issues.

(1) It IS socialized healthcare, you propose making some people pay for other people's healthcare, and additionally government-funded ANYTHING takes away choice - on both ends of the transaction.

(2) That's great that you want to pay for other people's bills - the rest of us don't. So you go to the hospital and pay someone else's bills, be my guest.

(3) "Revoking the tax cut on upper class people to cover it" - well, no, TAX REVENUE IS UP. THE TAX CUT PAID FOR ITSELF. And EVERYONE GOT A TAX CUT.

Socialized healthcare means this: That is is available to everyone, and that it is paid for by taxes.

Anything that makes it bad stems from poor implementation or people deliberately undermining the system. Otherwise, it's good.

Ask a Canadian or a Frenchman ask them what it is like to have to wait 6 months for a C.T scan when they suspect cancer. And when it fouls the other 3 to 6 month wait for another. The government does nothing right do you want them to care for your personal health or your families? Ask a Vet how good his is.? Ill pay for my own thank you very much

Health coverage in this country , or lack of it, is frightening.
There could be nothing worse then having no healthcare.

The constitution limits the role of the federal government, because the farther away the government is from the citizens, the less control or say so we have concerning it. In 1913 the elite, was able to change the constitution. They created the federal income tax, the Federal Reserve- which is not part of the federal Government- like the federal express, and third our senators are no longer sent by the states. But are elected by us. This last disrupted our checks and balances. The federal government is no-longer watched over. Never the less, the Federal gov. has all but eliminated the Constitution. Ex, they now control schools, state health care, seat belt laws, drugs, collages, foreign aid, religion, etc. Under this system, federal senators can invest in certain health care providers and award them the contracts. You see, the government has become to corrupt and we cannot stop or control them anymore. It will take a God to bring it down.Now in closing, that ding bat captain collector is talking about a democracy, which is called a suicidal government, or a mob form of government. Where 51% of the people can take the rights away from 49% of the others. We were to be a republic form of government. To the republic for which we stand! The country is full of traitors and ignorant people.

We have socialized medicine for poor people. It's called Medicaid. Medicaid is WAY better than any type of socialized health care in the world. They pay nothing and get the best treatment including brandname medications (generics not allowed). For old and disabled, it's called Medicare. Medicare Part D is a complete failure. Also keep in mind that we have 20 million illegal aliens who are already getting free health care (Medicaid, ER, maternity clinics, local clinics) and do not pay into the system (I know some do but not enough to offset the cost).

My friend is a neurologist in upstate New York (borders Canada). 30-40% of his patients are upper and upper-middle class Canadians who cross the border and pay for treatment in the United States. Canadians will wait 8 weeks to see a specialist. Without this freedom for Canadians to come to the U.S. for specialized treatment, Canada's waiting time would double or even triple. No one has the exact number of how many Canadians come to the U.S. for medical treatment.

The idea of universal health care is a nice one. The problem is that the government is so corrupt. Also if the government is providing your health care they are making decisions as to how and where the money will be spent and what care you'll recieve. With the bankruptcy of social security looming where is the government going to get the money to pay for your health care? Social Security is expected to take over 1/2 of the budget by 2030. How long do you think it would be before euthanasia would become a form of "health care" for the elderly? You know, a little cost benefit analysis of your age, expected health care expenses and potential tax revenue generated by you. They'll be putting you out of their misery before you know it. How much of your health care dollar would be spent just to maintain the bureaucracy around it before the first aspirin is issued? Read the Constitution. Especially article 1 section 8. Thats where it lists the extent of government authority to spend money. I don't see health care on the list. I don't see quite a few other things that the government is doing on the list either. They are all an unconstitutional misappropriation of tax payer money and health care provided by the government would be unconstitutional too. I don't want to give the government control over my health care. If you do, why not move to a "better" country where they already do that and become a citizen there? I'm sure they could use the tax revenue and we don't need socialists in this country. Unless you're a complete idiot you must have noticed by now that what politicians promise and what they deliver tend not to resemble each other. Especially when it comes to things the government has no business doing. When was the last time you saw an accurate cost estimate of something the government did? How many times has it cost less than the estimate?