Hillary forcing americans to pay for health care coverage . The plan is to force all people to pay right .?

I wonder why the poor people who have free medical care now would complain .

I bet they are not complaining .

I bet its the insurance companies who have to pay increasing bill amounts .

Yes Hillary is in league with the billion dollar insurance companies who feel as if they are forced to pay to cover the services the poor get for free now .

We all know that nothing is free so those bills to insurance and those who pay cash pay a little bit more to cover those who can not pay or do not have insurance .

I like the system fine right now .

Everyone is getting care .

I feel bad for people being ripped off by insurance companies but oh well you could always drop your coverage and get the free care .

Yes. That's pretty much the plan. Health care coverage will be mandated but not paid nor subsidized by the Fed. Those of us who already have overpriced healthcare coverage will find ourselves taxed yet again to 'help' those who will not work.
BTW, of the 43 million 'uninsured', about 20 million are illegal immigrants. I don't have the stats handy but a large percentage of the remaining 23 million are covered by spouse's insurance, parents insurance, or are retired and covered by union benefits insurance.
There is a small population that is truly uninsured and some of them can well afford to pay for their care.
If you are uninsured and are truly unable to afford to pay, the hospitals will, by law, provide healthcare to you.

I dont want to be "forced" to do anything regarding my health care. I liek it the way it is as well.

i sort of agree with you until the bottom: your wrong when you say everyone is getting care. The ultra poor are covered and the moderately to severely wealthy are covered. There are many who fall in between who make too much to get free coverage, yet can't afford to pay an HMO


This problem doesnt only exist in health care either. Look at financial aid for students, for housing, in taxes, etc. Basically, universal health care would help the one class in America that has consistantly taken a beating from both political parties: the middle class

Hillary appears to be buying votes successfully with her promises of FREE healthcare. She will probably win the presidency due to peoples' ignorance on this issue. (and greed)

Health insurance will never be "free". If the government pays for it where do you think the money will come from? TAXES. Who will pay them? Everyone. In Europe where they have "free" health care they pay 15 to 20% of their income in taxes each year for the "free" healthcare. The money it will cost for "free" health care will equal the total spent in Iraq and Afganistan so far, for one year of "free" healthcare.

I am against it because if I choose not the health care thats my choice not the governments. The problem is that people complain about the current health care situation but never address the fact that government intervention is the reason it has gotten so bad. Once licensing and the FDA got rolling the cost of drugs and medical care has just sky rocketed.

But governments policy seems to have always been once we screw something up we don't tell people and we just play on their emotions to get a even large government. Mostly because people do not study history or the cause of problems and just leave it to the media to tell them the "truth"

I'm forced to pay for alot of things.
National Parks I'll never visit.
Disasters that didn't effect me.
Impeachment trials that I never approved of
Medicare that I might never benefit from
Public schools yet I don't have children

Hillary's plan is a start but it still doesn't go far enough.
You are wrong in saying that her plan 'forces' all people to pay. If you are happy with your current plan you can choose to keep it.
You state that 'everyone is getting care'. That is not accurate. The latest figures show that almost 90 million people in the US does not have healthcare. And of that 90 million almost 60 million work full time and just can not afford the insurance premiums.
If you are referring to the fact that healthcare will not refused to anyone at a ER you are right however that deals with only emergency care. It doesn't cover normal healthcare maintenance, or preventive care, or catastrophic (long term disability) healthcare.

Do you ever notice that 'Conservatives' are not intersted in solving problems, only interested in protecting ideology - even if that is making things worse.

The number one cause of bankrupcty in the US is medical bills (and most of them have some medical insurance). Is this not a problem to solve?

You want freedom? How free are you to quit your job with health insurance and start your own business without it? If you have a family that is covered you won't because you can't go without coverage and you can't afford to invest your capital and buy insruance. Is this not a problem to solve?

The bottom line is that while routine health care is expensive (but generally affordable to those with a job) only the very wealthy can pay for anything more than a couple of days in the hospital. And everyone is at risk for that. Everyone gets old and needs more and more medical care. Everyone. conservatives, liberal, rich, and poor. Is this not an inevitablility to protect ourselves against?

What insurance does is spread the risk as wide as possible making bearing the risk affordable. The system depends on only some people in the risk pool needing payouts. The problem with medical insurance is that it is a near certainty that everyone will need it eventually. The young and healthy today will be old and sick tomorrow. If they do not pay today, will they expecte to be paid when they needed it? And they will need it.

This is why everyone must pay (it's why we pay into medicare our entire working lives).

For all of those who pooh-pooh such questions, I implore you to get a copy of the health care reform plan that Hillary came up with during her husbands term. It is quite revealing. I forget the exact number but it contains a remarkable amount of mandatory actions, perscribed prison terms for noncompliance and most disturbingly, a lifetime cap on benefits.

It also strictly forbid doctors from accepting payment or patients from paying a doctor outside of the system, punishable by prison time. Now, if one combines the lifetime cap with the restriction on other forms of payment the result was this. You receive only so many dollars of coverage and you are not allowed to pay for more nor is any additional coverage permitted, what happens? I assume they wheel you out of the hospital and dump you in the street.

The first plan was that draconian. You can believe this new plan will be loaded with mandates and other ways to force everyone into line. Unlike her husband, Hillary is very much a control freak. Remember, Attorney General Janet Reno was an intimate friend of Hillary from the Rose Law Firm. Janet Reno was perhaps the most draconian Attorney General America ever had. She was personally responsible for the deaths of well over 80 American citizens including women and children. At Ruby Ridge a Reno sniper killed a pregnant woman with a child in her arms. Yes, I said Reno sniper. That particular FBI sniper was there at her command and the orders of engagement were modified by Janet Reno to permit the FBI to shoot unarmed civilians.

You will see some serious s*** if Hillary becomes President.

Be careful what you ask for.

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I think her plan would actually save us money. Right now health care costs are going up exponentially. You just don't see the true costs. It costs us so much money when people go to the emergency room instead of just seeing a doctor during office hours. But because the costs are not transparent, most people have no clue. We are already overpaying for those that do not have health insurance. Of course, you like the system now because it involves you not doing any work to see if it really is what you think it is. Fear is driving you and you should counter fear with knowledge.