How about following Mexico's lead and example and just migrate to Canada? It is said that the poor and the jobless are the ones without health care. Many Liberals don't see a problem with poor and jobless Mexican's illegally entering our country to seek work and "a better life". Remember, that's all they want is a better life. Then they enjoy our government social programs and so forth. Libs use the argument that anyone would want to move to a better situation than they have. Well Canada IS THE ANSWER!!! They have a "babysitters" government that will provide everything for you from the cradle to the grave. So, as I see it... the libs that want national health care should just migrate to Canada in mass droves, take the jobs Canadians won't do and then leach off their government. Then you have FREE health care! I see it as a win/win. Our poor libs get everything they want and we do to.
Isn't this plan what libs think is OK for our illegals? Isn't that a plausible idea? Itchy.... education please.... who was President for 8 years before Bush and did nothing about Border security? And this when Clinton had terrorist attacks on the WTC, the USS Cole and several Embassies. This when Clinton had intell of a major terrorist strike in the US. NO President has handled our borders. They have always been open as a show of freedom. Not until recently has this become a hot topic. And yes... to a major degree I am dissapointed in Bush for not getting it done on the borders... but niether has you democrat constituents so find a different drum to beat. Contrary to your hate filled view of our President there is PLENTY of blame to go around on this one. Why has your Democrat runned Congress not approved and submitted a bill to get the job done yet? They have been in power for a year now.. I have the bus lines ready waiting for me to get them loaded up .and it free for the libs, since freebie's are their specialties. Look out Canada here they come. If we have anything to do with it. I believe this is a perfect solution to many problems we face. Very well said! I do like Canada though... maybe just send them to the "French" side of Canada... LOL Who has been the Commander In Chief for the past seven years and done nothing about border security?
The Republican Corporate Fascist Party has no interest in dealing with the illegal immigrant problem. They also have no interest in fixing our health-care catastrophe. They are only interested in utilizing economic terror and tyranny to solidify their monopolies and snuff out entrepreneurial competition.
Go back to your RonnieGod shrine and continue chanting on your knees.
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This has NOTHING to do with Democrats and Republicans, hatchling. It has to do with the International Corporate Fascist Movement eliminating our national sovereignty and our rights, hatchling.
Shrub and his administration were warned repeatedly about the attacks that ended up happening on 9/11/01. He did NOTHING, 0, nada. He allowed it to happen, hatchling.
The void that is your one shared mind, hatchling, has been fed the drivel that we have to fight them in a completely unrelated country in order to keep them from attacking us here. Yet, our Commander In Chief does nothing to secure our borders. Instead he takes steps to suspend our Constitutional rights and spy unconstitutionally on his own people.
I repeat. Go back to your RonnieGod shrine and chant on your knees, hatchling. It is the best you can do.
Or, you can try reading about what has really been going on for the last 50 years. You could start with ConsortiumNews.com.
You could TRY to get off your knees and develope a mind of your own, hatchling.
You could discover that this country has been run by International Corporate Fascists for decades, hatchling. You could be informed that Clinton, Bush, Ghouliani, Romney AND Obama are corporate fascist tools, hatchling.
You could discover that Bush, his father, his grandfather etc. have always been International Corporate Fascist tools going back to the British West Indies Corporation, hatchling.
But that would take getting off your calloused knees and thinking for yourself, hatchling.
I didn't think so.
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You have responded twice, so far, hatchling.
Care to make it a hat trick? Hey That Guy, have you seen the news lately (Foxnews doesnt count)? Millions of hardworking Americans cannot afford health care. Even those who can afford it are getting denied benefits that is due to them. They paid for it, they earn it, but the greedy HMOs wants to protect their investors' stock interest more than help sick Americans. This should change, and like Enron, these companies should be investigated for corruption and malpractices. We are paying trillions and we are the worst in health care among wealthy nations? Does that even bother you or you just stick to "let the Fox News think for me" mentality? Perhaps that is what that superhighway is for! They can just hide in the back of truck all the way to Canada, pop out, and whatdoyaknow, free healthcare and govt colleges. You want to double Canada's population in a year?
Seriously, there IS a free market solution to our health care woes. The author wrote this up as a government issued health insurance policy BECAUSE we have millions on government health care NOW (Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, IHS, VA). The author wants this to transition to the private sector BUT realizes you can't just end these programs (only the vulnerable would suffer) AND the private sector needs to have its practices CLEANED UP because the big insurers are CORRUPT. This plan needs to be seriously discussed.
To summarize the sensible plan again, which should be reviewed here (and it is the PDF, NOT the blurb): http://www.booklocker.com/books/3068.htm...
It offers ALL Americans a catastrophic health care package for an AFFORDABLE price.
Key points:
ALL Americans are eligible (and yes, there would be the traditional breakdowns into categories by age, sex, medical condition so that accurate premiums could be offered).
It is a CHOICE, not mandated with scare tactics and punishment鈥攔ight now the UNINSURABLE are screwed again with things like 鈥淢ust have insurance or we鈥檒l fine you.鈥?How about making a legit plan available to all before dumping on the victim again?
Catastrophic health care package is ALL that ANYONE NEEDS. The actual purpose of insurance is to share risk so you avoid bankruptcy. This is NOT done at all these days. First, over half of all bankruptcies are for medical bills and most of those folks were insured. Thus the current system clearly does NOT work. Second, this stupid 鈥渋f you鈥檝e got a nice policy and a sniffle, stop by the doc鈥檚 and others will pay for it鈥?runs up medical costs for NO good reason at all. Resources are wasted every day. IF people had to pay for their tendency towards hypochondria or refusal to follow basic sensible provisions, they鈥檇 be more likely to change their behavior.
AFFORDABLE is key. Insurance is NOT now affordable and the UHC story helps shed light on why that is. This plan would use a sliding-scale for the premium AND the co-pays so that those who really are not making much money (be they students or folks just starting out in the work force or the retired or disabled) would not pay more than they can afford. There would be a REAL limit on out-of-pocket NECESSARY medical expenditures as well.
Other key plan points:
There would be one physical with follow-up visit per year as well as one ER visit IF NEEDED (how to prevent ER abuse is covered) for reasonable co-pays.
The point here:
Prevention is ALWAYS cheaper than waiting for a problem to develop. It is also the moral approach to medical care. By getting folks in annually we鈥檇 be able to save a lot of lives and improve peoples鈥?productivity. We could also review meds (or if they鈥檙e needed), keep people immunized appropriately, answer questions about nutrition and more, and have a baseline of info should the person be in an accident or fall ill. Again, with a reasonable co-pay, there is now NO good reason for folks not to see the doctor. The follow-up makes sense for anyone who HAS a medical issue. If someone came through with flying colors, he would not even need to use that follow-up. Not everyone needs the ER, but it would be sensible IF needed to not leave people SOL. This logical plan would address ALL the legitimate needs of probably 80% of the population.
Another key plan point:
Necessary medications are covered as well as NO caps on necessary medical treatments.
Right now, we have BS like the 鈥渄onut hole鈥?of Medicare. This would be eliminated as would all fertility treatments, ED med coverage, and anything else which is not NECESSARY. This does not prevent people from receiving treatment for such things鈥攍et them find an insurance plan (this plan doesn鈥檛 stop others from being offered) or pay for it themselves, but there is no justification to make the taxpayer help someone have kids or sex. There is a reasonable reason for people on insurance to help those with cancer, strokes, heart disease, diabetes, etc. as this is far beyond a quality of life issue and goes to the heart of life and death. This is the same rationale for ending caps on legitimate procedures, like bone marrow transplants, which are quite expensive. Too often now a plan lies and claims something is covered, but by shunting off $25-250K on the patient to pay, that鈥檚 NOT a covered item in a rational person鈥檚 book.
BTW, insurance corruption beyond the Linda Peeno, MD testimony of a few years ago is documented here. I am 100% capitalist BUT that means old school capitalist--you EARN your money, you do NOT DENY benefits that are promised and use TRICKS to refuse to pay what you OWE. I only have part of the article--it's pretty sick at the start as well:
"While growing into a colossus, UnitedHealth has repeatedly failed to perform its basic job of paying medical bills. UnitedHealth, which covers 70 million Americans, has been sanctioned in nine states for paying claims slowly; shortchanging doctors, hospitals, or patients; or poorly handling complaints and appeals.
One Nebraska woman complained to state regulators that UnitedHealth's computers had incorrectly rejected claims related to her son's surgery six times.
At one point, UnitedHealth owed Dr. George Schroedinger, an orthopedic surgeon, $600,000. He and his clinic sued UnitedHealth of the Midwest in 2004.
Deciding for the clinic, U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh of Missouri declared that the company's claims processing systems were "flawed in many ways, denying, reducing, and improperly processing claims on a regular basis. And despite innumerable requests, United was unwilling to remedy the underlying errors in its systems" (Star-Tribune Dec. 12, 2007).
Payment troubles continued after the verdict, and Dr. Schroedinger filed a second lawsuit. "These people can never get it right, which says to me that they just plain lie," he said in an interview.
Failure to pay isn't the only complaint. The insurer also gives incorrect information on which physicians are in its network, creating enormous problems for physicians' staff.
The AMA said that no other insurer has prompted as many complaints as UnitedHealth about abusive and unfair payment practices. AMA officials have met with UnitedHealth executives 16 times since 2000, with little to show for it.
"They have always got a new plan to fix it," said Dr. William G. Plested III, past president of the AMA. But "nothing ever happens."
It seems to us that this case is just the tip of the insurance iceberg. More and more stories are appearing daily in the news media about how insurance company are instructing employees their jobs are to deny claims and/or delay payments.
With such a high percentage of medical premiums and other costs going to the legal profession, to maintain compliance with endless government rules/regulations and being hoarded by the insurance companies and executives 鈥?is it any wonder medical costs are increasing so dramatically?
It's time to take a closer look at the medical insurance companies.
UnitedHealth Group is not the first medical insurance company to rob patients, hospitals and clinics to pay obscene salaries to their executives.
It's a modern day robbing patients to pay pimps.
Michael Arnold Glueck, M.D., comments on medical-legal issues and is a visiting fellow in economics and citizenship at the International Trade Education Foundation of the Washington International Trade Council.
Robert J. Cihak, M.D., is a senior fellow and board member of the Discovery Institute and a past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
http://www.newsmax.com/medicine_men/medi... socialism is not the way. the french and brits are moving from it, but bama and billary are running that way. I have worked my @ss off in the food service business for 43 year's, very hard business, especially in the 60's70's80', and I worked 5 day's a week, I worked for everything I have, Just quite a job that I worked 5 days a week 8plus hr's a day, until I could not do it anymore. anyone who come's into this country, can just work as hard as I did,and it now cost's over 500.00 a month for my health care, why in the world should I pay for anyone Else's health or for that fact, anything at all for illegal alien's Thats pure bulls@it, they need to start sending them back, I'm really tired of it, way too much diversity in this country, and way way toooo much humanistic crap, sorry I am not into humanism, other than American's!!!!!!!! |
